Christian BDSM
Q&A
This
question and answer list
is the offshoot of an e-mail lambsone sent to two of the mail lists
that she and I are on. I answered the questions (with the
assistance of My wife and slave gentle^spiritSG) and then realized
that they would make a good page for the website.
Sir Gardener
So
exactly what is
"Christian" BDSM?
First
off, I
do not like the term
"Christian BDSM". It infers a relationship between the two terms
that I feel should not be
made. That is why I named this site "Christians and BDSM".
However, having said
that, I
will say that I feel that "Christian" BDSM is a relationship between
two believers who
have agreed together that they want their relationship to incorporate
some or all of the dynamics of BDSM.
Does
it differ from
"secular" BDSM?
It
does differ from secular
BDSM in that the relationship is (or should be) confined to a husband
and wife in male dominant/female submissive roles. Also, the Bible is
the ultimate authority... if something is "accepted" in BDSM circles
but prohibited by the Bible, then it is prohibited in a Christian BDSM
relationship.
Are
BDSM relationships
different in Christian BDSM? If so, how do they
differ?
They are different since there is a
specific spiritual component to their relationship. The Master
and submissive/slave worship, pray and grow together as
Christians. The Master is head of the wife. She submits to
Him. Christ is the head of the church. Master and
submissive are both in submission to Christ. A Christian
submissive’s first responsibility is to God and His commandments.
Unlike her secular sister, a Christian submissive should not
participate in something against God’s teaching, even if ordered
by her
Dominant/Master.
How
are Christian BDSM
relationships similar to secular BDSM relationships?
Secular
BDSM cannot be easily
categorized. There are as many different ways to "do" BDSM as there are
people to do them. The relationships are the same, however as (and
when) they are based in love and not the selfish pursuit of self
gratification.
Can
we do anything we want
in
Christian BDSM?
CAN
we? Of course! SHOULD we?
Of course NOT!
If
not, what are the
prohibitions for Christian BDSMers?
Anything
prohibited by the Bible,
plus anything not agreed upon by the couple. Of course, limits on
non-biblical prohibitions may be
pushed or changed. One might say their limit is "no canes", but if they
agree to try it then the limit may be challenged. It may stand, or it
may change, but it should be done by mutual agreement.
Are
Christian BDSM folk a
legitimate group of BDSMers?
Yes...
or to put it another
way, "Why wouldn't we be a legitimate group of BDSMers?"
Why
aren't Christian BDSM
folk
accepted by some secular BDSM folk?
IMHO,
they look at their
adopting a BDSM lifestyle as flying in the face of what they believe is
traditional Christian morality. To find Christians in the lifestyle
challenges their belief. They cannot handle this challenge to their
stereotyping of Christians, so they reject those Christians who are in
the lifestyle.
Can
we say what is always
Christian BDSM and what is always not Christian BDSM?
No,
except to the extent of
what is Biblically prohibited. After that, it is different
for each couple. Some may live a strictly D/s relationship
without any bondage or S&M while others may practice domestic
discipline (DD), either with or without the structure of a D/s
relationship. Others may include
bondage and/or S&M into their relationship in varying degrees.
Does
Christian BDSM work
out in
daily life? If so, how?
IMHO,
yes, it does. The dominance and submission aspect of BDSM models
the traditional Biblical marriage relationship, while the bondage and
S&M aspects enrich the sex lives of those who partake of them.
What
should a Christian
dominant
think about himself?
I
feel that a Christian dominant
should think of himself as a steward of the submissive that God has
given him. Speaking for myself, I
think of myself as a caretaker and guardian of my submissive... one who
has a charge to protect and nurture her.
What
should a Christian
submissive think
about herself?
A Christian submissive should first think
of herself as a child of God and therefore precious in His sight.
She is submissive first and foremost to Christ. She should feel
she has a precious gift to offer the special Dominant God has for
her. As His helpmeet she adds balance to the relationship. A
Christian submissive should know that in she is unique and God will
give her the strength she needs to submit.
What
should a Christian
dominant
think about his submissive?
A
Christian dominant should think of his submissive the same way that God
thinks of her. Again
using myself as an example, I believe that my submissive is my
"treasured
possession" just as God called Israel His "treasured possession"
(Exodus 19:4-6)
What
should a Christian
submissive think
about her dominant?
She should think of Him as her protector,
mentor, provider, lover and friend. The Christian submissive should be
able to trust her Dominant in all things. She should know He will
be consistent in His treatment of her. She should feel safe. A
submissive or slave should never have reason to fear her Dominant.
How
do the thoughts of a
Christian dominant differ from those of a secular dominant?
I
feel that the difference between a Christian dominant and a secular
dominant revolve around who they focus on in the relationship.
While I don't believe that all secular dominants are this way, I do
feel that many put their own needs and desires far above those of their
submissives. Christian dominants should put the welfare of their
submissives before their own needs. As for me,
my thoughts are for my submissive first and for my own pleasure and
gratification second. My greatest gratification
comes from seeing her grow and prosper.
How
do the thoughts of a
Christian submissive differ from those of a secular submissive?
Unlike her secular sister, a Christian
submissive may not be a natural submissive. She may choose to
become a submissive wife as she is called to do in the
scriptures. She seeks to honor God and her Husband in all she
does. The Christian submissive seeks after God’s heart and relies
on prayer for strength and wisdom in her submissive walk.
How
does the treatment of a
submissive by a Christian dominant differ from treatment of a
submissive by a secular dominant?
RESPECT...
I'm not trying to say
that secular dominants do not respect their submissives, just that I
cannot
see a dominant who calls himself a Christian not respecting his
submissive.
How
does the treatment of
a dominant by a Christian submissive differ from the treatment of
a dominant by a secular submissive?
A Christian submissive looks to her Master
as spiritual head of the home. Unlike her secular sister, the
Christian submissive must measure those duties given her by her
Dominant by what is scriptural. If she is ordered to do something
that is against biblical teaching she must refuse. In Colossian
4:6 we see she has the God given duty to gently, respectfully and
with love reprove her Husband if He stumbles into sin.
Have
Christian BDSMers made
BDSM better or have we just adopted the secular BDSM habits,
traditions, etc.?
While
there are many aspects of BDSM that are the same whether you talk of
Christian or secular BDSMers, it
all depends on whether you
bring Biblical principles into the relationship or use the BDSM aspects
to pollute the relationship.
If
a Christian dominant
expects his submissive to let him lead her 100%, should he expect to
replace God in
the submissive's life?
He
shouldn't. The dominant
should be led 100% by God; so, by extension, hey should be leading his
submissive 100% by God's direction. In other words, the dominant should
assist his submissive in her relationship with God and not stand in the
way of that
relationship. In fact, the dominant should encourage his
submissive's spiritual
relationship, and correct any wavering from that path.
If
a Christian submissive
is 100% submissive to her dominant, does that mean that she no longer
has a personal relationship with God and can only go through her
dominant to talk to and
obey God?
Absolutely
not. The D/s relationship does not supplant her relationship with
God. It is only a shadow of that relationship. The
submissive is still responsible for her own spiritual relationship with
God.
What
kind of consequences
does
a Christian dominant receive when he sin?
That
depends. If the dominant sins alone,
he receives the sin consequence he should. If he causes his submissive
to sin, IMHO he also takes on her sin as the one who led her to sin.
If
a Christian dominant is
supposed to present the submissive before God as a clean vessel, does
this
mean that when the submissive sins, the dominant has to bear the
consequences
since he was in charge and failed to keep the submissive on the
straight
and narrow?
No.
The submissive does not
give up her free will in the eyes of God (again, IMHO), so if she sins
independently of her dominant's leading, she alone is responsible for
that sin. For example, would you blame the dominant for the submissive
having an
adulterous relationship on her own?
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2004 by Sir
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